Can DISPEL MAGIC reverse FLESH TO STONE?

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Can DISPEL MAGIC reverse FLESH TO STONE?

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Can DISPEL MAGIC reverse FLESH TO STONE?

I allowed it Thursday, but am curious as to what other folks think. I did see the percentage for failure, but forgot that on the fly. These things happen.
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Dispel Magic stops ongoing spells, whereas Flesh to Stone produces a permanent change.
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If you rule that a petrified creature works as a magical objects, then yes, but as Leon said, Flesh to Stone is permanent, and dispel only works on ongoing/active effects.
(otherwise you could dispel all those healing spells :twisted: )
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While I agree with Dimirag in general about permanent effects (such as the mentioned healing spells), this is a situation where I would probably allow Dispel Magic if cast within a reasonable time frame from when the Flesh to Stone spell was cast. I would likely allow the Dispeller to cast within a number of days/hours/etc equal to the Dispeller's level (depending on my whims at the time or how much of time constraint I want in the game session to build excitement - great plot device to have to rush to save someone)... after which, the Flesh to Stone is effectively permanent.

That said, there is always the reverse of the spell, "Stone to Flesh"... so hope is not lost. Just don't cast upon the wrong statue... ewwh - pile of random meat
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Thanks fellows, gives me some food for thought on the matter.
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I would say no to Dispel Magic for the same reasons Dimi & Leon gave, plus it's never been a thing, and Flesh to Stone mentions it's counterspell in it's description "The reverse spell, stone to flesh, acts as a counterspell for flesh to stone, restoring the creature just as it was when it was petrified."

Edit: Sorry forgot to mention Leon also said it
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teaman wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 11:48 am Can DISPEL MAGIC reverse FLESH TO STONE?

I allowed it Thursday, but am curious as to what other folks think. I did see the percentage for failure, but forgot that on the fly. These things happen.
Reverse it after it completed it's effect, no. Interrupt it while it is actively changing flesh to stone, yes. As other point out. Once the spell is completed it's action of the change, there is no spell to dispel.
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The logic chain is actually simpler than that... there would be little point to Flesh to Stone if Dispel Magic worked.
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Thanks also for the followups. I'll be more ruthless moving forward.
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