CptClyde wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:15 pm
Holy monkey! I just saw that Wretching art. I totally would like to disagree with some and vote for the first incarnation. Her face is WAY more creepy in the first image. The face shadowing is indeed different which draws you in as the focal point. And you quickly notice her face "just doesn't look quite right" which is what gives me the shivers. The "corrected" version just loses its edge for me.
toddlyons wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:59 am
I didn't mean to suggest I didn't like the face. It was just jarringly different than the texture and shading of the rest of the drawing. It's an effect similar to a situation where two different artists collaborate on a piece but their styles are so distinct you can pick out who did what. Good, but not cohesive.
Wow. This is the same conversation I have in my head as I'm drawing. It's the reason I redraw an illustration several times. It's the same reason I'm about a dozen illustrations in on the Hiveling drawing. I do like the creepiness of the first Wretchling but I also think the face was a little much at the same time. I think the updated version lost some of the edge but it does fit better with the rest of the drawing. I could redraw it, but we may very well end up back here again and I would never really finish it. I feel that way about all of my drawings. I look at them and see something that could be better, and so it's never finished in my mind. I wasn't sure about the face to begin with, so it didn't take any convincing to change it. Which is better? I don't know. My answer would be neither but that's the perfectionist side of me. I had a version of the Dreamless with faces inside the darkness, but I thought that was a little cliche and opted for a "Rorschach" approach. I wanted to draw it so that the viewer saw what they wanted to see. At least that was the goal. Did I achieve it? Probably not. Was either version better than the other? Probably not. Will it ever be finshed? Probably not.
CptClyde wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:15 pm
Holy monkey! I just saw that Wretching art. I totally would like to disagree with some and vote for the first incarnation. Her face is WAY more creepy in the first image. The face shadowing is indeed different which draws you in as the focal point. And you quickly notice her face "just doesn't look quite right" which is what gives me the shivers. The "corrected" version just loses its edge for me.
toddlyons wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:59 am
I didn't mean to suggest I didn't like the face. It was just jarringly different than the texture and shading of the rest of the drawing. It's an effect similar to a situation where two different artists collaborate on a piece but their styles are so distinct you can pick out who did what. Good, but not cohesive.
Wow. This is the same conversation I have in my head as I'm drawing. It's the reason I redraw an illustration several times. It's the same reason I'm about a dozen illustrations in on the Hiveling drawing. I do like the creepiness of the first Wretchling but I also think the face was a little much at the same time. I think the updated version lost some of the edge but it does fit better with the rest of the drawing. I could redraw it, but we may very well end up back here again and I would never really finish it. I feel that way about all of my drawings. I look at them and see something that could be better, and so it's never finished in my mind. I wasn't sure about the face to begin with, so it didn't take any convincing to change it. Which is better? I don't know. My answer would be neither but that's the perfectionist side of me. I had a version of the Dreamless with faces inside the darkness, but I thought that was a little cliche and opted for a "Rorschach" approach. I wanted to draw it so that the viewer saw what they wanted to see. At least that was the goal. Did I achieve it? Probably not. Was either version better than the other? Probably not. Will it ever be finshed? Probably not.
Everyone probably has a preference, but I'd say either version is definitely "good enough".
But then again, I'm more interested in seeing that polar boar-mounted tusker!
Zoltors Inkwell wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:55 pm
Thanks Teaman. I miss the old Conan magazines. I know you don't mean the comic books. The magazines were much better.
I think some of the more recent comic books were reprints of the old black and white magazines, the stuff Roy Thomas adapted.