OCD Thread (All players)

[Longman]

Hey Woe,

It really is getting to the point where it's a damn shame you can't read Old Salen. And you easily have enough base material to work with to start reconstructing the old language now you have found the notebooks.

I've decided that learning a new language is either a minimum 6 months hard study and then you can have it for free, provided you do not do anything else in that time. This 'language by hard study' option is only available for those with Int 15 or more.

Or, you can spend abackground skill point and reduce the time down to 1 month.

Unfortunately, you are not due one of those until 6th level. Anna has an unspent one and Bruce will get one fairly soon, but I think either of them learning Salen would be a bit incongruous.

My suggestion is that we retcon slightly and make it that Tiana did not spent her 3rd level BG skill on more history. (It has not affected the game so far at all). She could learn the new language in 1 month. With Talin's help - because he knows Sader, a modern version of the language - she could start making a few guesses within a single week of study. But you'd need to be at it for at least 8 hours a day, in peace.

[Grendelthebrave]

first off, whew! Good thing I have that elk-shoe up my... nevermind.

Game points, the thread said they start at level 3, will I have access to them before that?

[Longman]

I think so. I have tweaked quite a few things since Woe started. That means I am introducing a loft of things earlier. I figure I might as well.

That means you also get background skills at level 1, where as in her game, we waited til level 2 for those.

And also - Chevo should get a combat skill for level 1. I couldn't see one listed for him. Look at the brief list in the rules thread, or ask me if you have an idea.

[Woe]

Retconning works for me. Does she need to spend an additional seven days, or does she get credit for the time waiting for others to heal?

[Longman]

It would have to be from now on. You have a decent supply of Old Sader to work with.

I guess you need to decide if you are going to head deeper in, or pull back for a month and figure out more about what is going on. I'm good either way.

[Woe]

Yeah, I agree (and the party is torn too). They'll probably go a bit deeper in, mainly because they have made a meager 235gp (not counting all the cool magic items they don't know how to use, of course!) and the only one who needs a break is Tiana.

Besides, there's a few mysteries left to unravel, like where are they? I don't just mean on the map (3b) but on the other map which we haven't used for months. There's question about who made this, who the current occupants are, whether golems can be reconstructed, etc. Imagine how cool it'd be marching into Red Oak with an army of iron golems!

So yeah, onward ho!

[Longman]

I'll trust you to have counted the treasure right. Might be worth looking back and seeing exactly what you have gained, though. I don't have a list, myself.

We talked before about learning Old Sader magic - resurrecting the lost human art, etc. It's a totally new class. And, it may be the only way to understand many of the cool items you have found.

How do you see that playing out?

[Woe]

There hasn't been much treasure, except for all of the magical gear.. Hah! There has been a lot of treasure, just little coinage. I'll doublecheck but as long as I pay the food bill and nobody dies, it's a successful run. This time, we also got the staff, the robes, the books, the ring of protection, the preserved weapons, the helmets that cast light... possibly more but that alone is good.

I've thought about it. When we talked about it last, it was human magic, and the assumption I made was that elves can't cast human magic. That'd be interesting in so many ways, the first elven warlock (my choice of words to differentiate elf magic and human magic ). Another option is the hedge wizard off on that island becomes a (N)PC, who happens to be human and a magic-user. A third is to sell it all to Rillow and make it her problem, not mine. Maybe in the future, Rillow becomes corrupted by human magic and the PCs battle her!

My creative juices are definitely flowing this morning.

[Longman]

I am prepared to go with what you want on this.

I a lot of ways it would make more sense if Tiana could not cast human magic - as it is extra-planar and hers is natural. But if you want to go there, we can. That would have to mean that her next level (level 4) was in Sader magic, and she would be 3 Elf /1 Salen multiclass. A bit awkward, but it's the only way of doing it. If we wait until the following level it would be another 10k exp before any of his happened.

Other options -
You meet a sage in the city of Sader who has already been dabbling a bit in arcane magic and s/he is delighted to help you. S/he also has an apprentice to accompany you. That's a way of getting a young human adventurer wizard into the game.

The mysterious thing on the island? Not a human mage.

Rillow? Maybe. I'd prefer Tiana to Rillow though.

[Woe]

[In Tiana's evil voice]
Hello Rillow. Guess what power I've learned since I've been away.




Neither Tiana nor I know enough about human magic to make a decision. She'll need to read more before either of us can make a proper decision on whether she wants to pursue it or put away the dark arts. Either way, I'm sure her research will go a long way getting her into the Mages Guild. Maps? Pfft. This is waaay better than maps.