OCD Thread (All players)

[Longman]

I still like the idea of having 2 different classes. The ranger is more martial and can use larger weapons. The scout is more thief like. Incidentally, Talin can wear armor like chain and so on - if I have said otherwise, I will correct that now. It's just that he will be at movement penalties, and it will affect his hide and move silently.

BUT...there are a range of issues with using both Scout and Ranger, that we are working out as we go along. This seems like a good opportunity to sort things out - but do you want to do all the paperwork?


Scout:
d6, 30' surprise, backstab, leather and light weapons only, +2 with shortbow, dual wield, start with thief base skills, add 30% per level, progress as fighter, woodcraft is obligatory.

Ranger:
d8, +2 with bow, can use martial weapons and metal armor, favored enemy, start with ranger base skills, add 15% per level, woodcraft is obligatory, but animal handling is a free skill, gain some spell-like abilities at 7th level. Fighter+10% exp costs.

Personally I think this is OK. If you want to spend points on boosting the ranger's tracking, you can. If you focus more on Hide and Sneak, Freya will end up a better tracker.

[Woe]

Maybe that's the right way to think about it then. At least, it resonates with me. The ranger is a more martial outdoorsman, and the scout is a weaker outdoorsman. They're similar, but the ranger is going to be more often into combat (warden of the woodlands all that stuff) and the scout is more a forward observer. That's why the ranger has the extra hp, AB, animal companion*; and the scout has the extra skills to counter.

* I think we're discounting Fido as a combat tool because he's not 4th level. When he was close to Talin, he was a free 75%-of-a-NPC. Also, the MU spell is not valuable. When Talin gets to 7th level and able to cast his first spell, Tiana will be casting dimension door, ice storm, massmorph. "Oh Talin, you can cast light. How cute!"

[Longman]

OK. I think we're good to keep going. I have done the characters, and will post them in the character sheets on here, tommorow. Will sort out rules and other stuff later. I have a big FtF game tommorow night and another on the weekend so will be a bit slow.

PS - Tiana will be casting Polymorph Other, Polymorph Self, Hold Monster, and who knows what other goodies. Talin will probably be casting Speak With Animals...

[Woe]

You missed my humor. Imagine a 7th level fighter, a 7th level ranger, and a 7th level MU all at a bar.

F: I'm a danger with the sword, the axe, the mace, the bow...
R: I'm a danger with the bow, and you should really see what happens to goblins when my bear and I get really mad.
F: Oh yeah, you and that bear are beasts when fighting goblins.
MU: With a wiggle of my pinky, I can turn this whole room in a blistering hailstorm.
F: Wow. That's pretty bad. Hey R, you can do magic too right?
R: Kinda. [looking uncomfortable] I can cast a missile of magic from my hands.
MU: Hey I can too! How many can you cast in a day? My personal best is nine. I keep trying for ten. Maybe one day.
R: [mumbling in his beer] One.

The point is, the spell use comes so late and is so minimal that it has never seemed as a core feature of the class -- more of an afterthought.

Or another one, with a paladin and a cleric:
P: Hey, I just hit level 10! I can cure 1d6+1 hp.
C: Cool! I just hit level 12! I can completely heal all of your wounds... and your diseases, and your poisons, and your blindness, and...

You get the idea.

[Longman]

I do get you. But...Tiana will only ever have one kind of magic, most likely. New types of magic, even at low levels, could still be powerful. What if I were to introduce 'Sleep' right now? It's only 1st level but still a total game-changer. You get the idea.

Anyway, you guys are now pretty tough. Talin has gone up to +5 to hit and 1d10+2 with the sword, and a crazy +8 with the bow, when at short range.

Freya's HP have been substantially beefed up.

Kilian's fighting has improved too but his main gain has not yet come to pass - - hopefully in this chapter, we'll see.

Anna is 3rd level and has taken on a lot of lock and trap skills to distinguish herself from Freya, of whom she is jealous. Bruce is 1000 exp away from being 3rd level.

By the way - I did not do equipment and lists of found items. I only reviewed the statistics of the characters.

[Woe]

IF you introduced sleep, then Tiana could get a decent night's rest without having to listen to Bruce snore.

I stayed current on equipment, save for the very end at the chapel. I'll catch that up as well as decrement some food. I'm hauling a lot of torches for no reason. Haha. Maybe oil would have been better after all.

Anna might be jealous of Freya, but Talin only has eyes for the redhead. She could fail every lock and Talin would still think she's the bestest lock opener he's ever heard of.

[Woe]

Any concerns if I separate the character background from the rest of the character sheet, and move it all to separate docs at the very bottom? Right now it's a bunch of scrolling to get between characters, and I think that would clean up a lot just by itself.

[Longman]

No probs. Go for it.

[Grendelthebrave]

Just thought I'd share this, I was at the Royal Saskatchewan Museum on the weekend with my wife and had to pose next to a good ol' Lord Elkminster stand in:

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I feel like this one might not be burly enough to carry weeks' worth of rations, but oh well...

[Longman]

Oh, Lord Elkminster is waay bigger than that, dude.

I hope he lives through the night though...