OCD Thread (All players)

[Grendelthebrave]

Lord Elkminster is just going to be a beast of burden at the moment, but if I had a sabre-toothed tiger-elk I think a mounting it would be awesome!

Yeah, two dwarves up in the antlers while the beast charges some goblins I think that sounds fun.

[Longman]

[Longman]

Freya: Dex
Kilian: Str
Talin: Str

I'll give you a few days to verify that, then we'll move on. I will redo the characters at that point, and figure out a way to do character sheets so they are easier to read and access.

4th level. Woot.

[Grendelthebrave]

I'll be heading out camping with my wife for our anniversary this weekend, so posts will be delayed from me.

If there's an exciting troll fight, might be able to sneak one in on my phone :p

[Woe]

Freya: Dex
Kilian: Str
Talin: Str

CON for Freya. It's just too hard to avoid +28% health.

[Longman]

That's a wrap?

OK, I will get around to redoing the character sheets in a new form and putting them on some kind of drive - maybe on dropbox.

Can you also tell me what you want for your thief / scout skills?

I'll hold off on opening a new chapter as there are a few other things to wrap up. If you head immediately into the space beyond the mirror, that's a new chapter. If you hold back and do more preparation, we're not quite there yet.

[Woe]

It's a wrap, mainly because I'm not sure what else can be done in the current area save touch the skeleton or go worm hunting. The first is irreverent, the second imprudent. Into the breech once more, dear friends of Shakespeare. I hope it is a two-way mirror!

Talin: +5 track, +5 move silently, +5 hide
Freya: +10 move silently, +10 hide, +10 listen

[Woe]

Ages ago we had the "are rangers replaced by scouts?" discussion. Now that both are heading into level four, here's my observations:

Scout vs ranger
Scout wins on the overlapping skills:

• Open Locks: 30% vs none
  Remove Traps: 25% vs none
  Move Silently: 45% vs 35%
  Climb Walls: 91% vs none
  Hide: 35% vs 40%
  Listen: 44% vs none
  Track: 49% vs 30%
  +2 with bows (both)
  d6 (scout) vs d8 (ranger) -> +1 hp/level for ranger

Ranger-only skills:

• Animal companion
  Favored enemy

Scout-only skills:

• Dual wield (-1/-4)
  Surprises foes 50% if 30' ahead of non-scouts

Did I miss anything?

[Longman]

Not that I can see.

I think my version of Scout may be a bit better than the Ranger, all round. (I'm not bothered by that so much). I will check it out and see if the skills need tweaking a bit.

Preparing a list of house rules over the next few days.

EDIT:

Scouts get a thief AB. I think that redresses the imbalance a bit. (But, scouts also get backstab and rangers don't.)

[Woe]

I think my version of Scout may be a bit better than the Ranger, all round. (I'm not bothered by that so much). I will check it out and see if the skills need tweaking a bit.

Scouts get a thief AB. I think that redresses the imbalance a bit. (But, scouts also get backstab and rangers don't.)

It was more academic than anything else. I used to be a big a fan of the ranger class (AD&D 2e and 3e, when rangers could wear plate with no penalties) so it's a bit vexing that the scout is better than a core class I grew up with. The thought started when I realized that Talin was a worse tracker than Freya, which kicked off the "I wonder how well they stack up otherwise." and decided while your version of the scout is more balanced than the forum scout, it still displaces the ranger.

If you look, Freya's AB is about the same as Talin's. He'll slowly get better, but I don't think it's a major benefit.

Scouts don't get backstab though.

Unlike a thief, a scout gains no bonuses for back stabbing, though normal bonuses for attacking from behind or with surprise are applied.

Just a thought and was looking for a second opinion, nothing more.