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Growth of animals on PCs?

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:36 pm
by black1blade
Can growth of animals be cast on PCs and if so how is their damage modified? Just flat doubled, double all physical damage, double only the damage rolled on dice. I only ask this because the combination of growth of animals, haste and gauntlets of orge power proved shockingly effective enough for a chimera to be slain in 1 round... (after they used breath of kill that "hypothetical" elf wizard)

Re: Growth of animals on PCs?

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:27 pm
by Dimirag
Not unless they are animals.
You could rule a similar spell working on humanoids.

Re: Growth of animals on PCs?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:21 pm
by Solomoriah
Animals are a specific type of creature in the game; specifically, they are living creatures that are neither sentient nor magical. Dogs, cats, horses, cows, lions, tigers, and bears... but not chimera, or humans, or elves, or dragons.

Re: Growth of animals on PCs?

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:27 am
by SerGavin
would it work on a somewhat magical or intelligent animal, such as a paladin horse? or perhaps a griffon?

Re: Growth of animals on PCs?

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:36 am
by SmootRK
SerGavin wrote:would it work on a paladin horse?
If said horse is magical intelligent beast, then I would rule no.

If nothing more than a tougher bigger horse, then yes I would allow.

That said, nothing wrong with intrepid MU/Cleric/Druid developing variations on the spell to affect other sorts (as suggested above).
Suggested spells:
Giant-Size - affects humanoids
Enlarge Beasts - affects various "near-animals" or "magical creatures" ie griffons, blink dogs, owlbears, etc.
Mighty Dragon - will enlarge a dragon to the next age/size category in body (physical attacks/AC etc), but not in mind so no additional spells or magical abilities other that what normal size/age category grants.

Just some rough ideas. Each would need serious balancing or consideration for level of spell.

Re: Growth of animals on PCs?

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:55 pm
by Dimirag
SerGavin wrote:would it work on a somewhat magical or intelligent animal, such as a paladin horse? or perhaps a griffon?
If for whatever reason the animal is more than an animal, e.g. magical nature or origin, unnatural intelligence, etc, then no, the animal is something else and the spell can't work on it, but a variation could ;)